Question:
I would like to buy an SCSI 15000 RPM Drive! But will it fit in my PC does anyone know?
I have a Compaq 6254EA
How can I check if it will fit?
Many Thanks.
Matt.
EDIT: And can it run along another IDE Drive (I think that is what I have in at the moment, but how might I check that please :S)
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SCSI drives are the same physical size as ATA/IDE etc. drives so it will fit as long as you have a spare slot/mounting bracket for it. Drives also have standard locations for screws etc.
However, it looks like your motherboard doesn't have a built in SCSI controller so you'll need to buy a separate PCI SCSI controller card.
Yes, IDE and SCSI drives can be used together.
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So That's good.
So if I were to purchase this a 15000 RPM SCSI Drive, I can just add it on as an Upgrade really?
And I have googled SCSI Controller Card, £300 ????? Is that a price I am looking at ?
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And I have googled SCSI Controller Card, £300 ????? Is that a price I am looking at ?
Wow! Around £10 on ebay -
TBH, not worth going with SCSI. Stick with IDE/ATA --
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It really isn't worth the money to use SCSI drives on a desktop. Stick to IDE. If you want speed, go SATA2 rather than SCSI.
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Hmm...
But do I need to buy extra hardware for SATA2 aswell?
I am getting this 20GB 15000 RPM SCSI Drive for about £20 or less you see.
I will also open up my PC now to see. What would I look for to see if it's SCSI compatible?
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EIDE is cheaper and simpler overall..
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OMGOSH so confused :| haha..
Well my plan was to do this.
Get a smaller, fast drive (15000 RPM, 18GB Drive) and install key files on there such as the OS, and antivirus etc. I was also going to put the page file on either there or my main IDE drive (undecided).
Having a fast seperate drive for critical things such as the OS would be a great benefit right? using a cheaper, larger, slightly alower IDE drive for installing games for kids, and word, excel etc.
good idea?
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Yes, it's a good idea to put OS and page file on separate drives, and put document files on a separate partition on either drive.
Windows XP normally puts My Documents on the same partition as Windows itself. To change this you'll have to reinstall Windows from a CD created using nLite or similar tool.
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Personally I'd just buy some more ram (or a fast eide drive) if your PC is slowing up, more ram=more disk cacheing, and less need for the page file being used. The scsi route is a complication and expense I'd avoid.
But that's me (not a need for speed type), I prefer a simple setup and an easy life.
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Hmmm, well I just purchased the SCSI Drive, oops.
Never mind, it cost me $5, brand new, Fujitsu 18GB from eBay. Yes I may have to pay import duties etc, and the postage is not confirmed yet, but I can sell again on eBay UK (where they go for a much higher price!).
But i wouldn't mind using it! It's just sounding all compliated
EDIT:
Can an eide drive be used with standard IDE sockets :s?
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yes eide/ide are effectively the same nowadays.
To get the scsi one to work, you'd need a scsi card as already suggested..
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Thanks for that.
You say effectively the same. Googling bought me an answer - says that it is basically faster and replacing SCSI oops haha!!
But can I use my current hardware with it? I'm not too sure you see!?
Thanks again all.
Matt.
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Read it as the same.. IDE is the old standard, Eide is the enhanced, they are backward compatible, and use the same connector. All modern drives are EIDE.
SCSI is historically faster, but more complicated to use, generally used in servers. EIDE is sufficient for most people. A modern EIDE drive is faster than a scsi drive from a few years ago.
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Thanks!!!!! You've been a great help, all of you! I think that's all my questions!
Let me know if I can help you with anything (I doubt I can, you're all geniuses!! )
Matt.
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Hiya AGAIN!
I just receieved my SCSI Drive.
It is an 80 pin drive. All the SCSI PCI devices on ebay are like 50pin, 68pin etc! I don't know which one to choose.
Could anyone help me find all the hardware I need to buy. I can free a PCI Slot on the motherboard! And what cable should I be getting. I'm pretty good with software, but hardware - talking to me is like talking to a kid.
I need to connect the drive internally.
Many Thanks,
Matt.
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What speed card would you recommend?
I compare these two for example:
The second is way more expensive, it is Ultra320.
The spec for my drive is:
Drive Features
* High recording density adopting Advanced Giant Magneto-Resistive Head (GMR) technology and 32/34 MEEPRML recording code
* Large capacity 18.4GB with 3.5 inch and 1 inch height
* High speed with 15,000 rpm, average seek time 3.5 ms, data transfer rate 160MB/s (Ultra 160)
* MTBF 1,200,000 hours more adopting high quality parts which is reduced parts by integration of circuit parts and made by latest technology
Note: *1 Fujitsu defines 1 gigabyte (GB) as 1,000,000,000 bytes for Hard Disk Drives' storage capacity size
Capacity: 18.4GB
Spindle Speed: 15,000RPM
Interface Type: 80pin SCA-2 (Hot-Swap)
Disk Size: 5.75"x4.0"x1.0" (Low Profile Hard Drive)
Sustained Throughput (MBps):
Average Seek Time (read/write ms):
Electrical Interface Speed: SCSI LVD U160 - 160MBps 16-bit
On-Board Cache: 8MB
Heads (Physical)
8
Spindle Speed
15000 rpm
Average Seek Time
3.5 ms
Data Transfer Rate
160 MBps
Interface Type
Ultra160 SCSI
Capacity
18.4 GB
Weight
1.8 lbs
Dimensions (WxDxH)
4 in x 5.7 in x 1 in
Form Factor
3.5" x 1/3H
Type
Hard drive - internal
Product Description
Fujitsu Enterprise MAM3184MP - hard drive - 18.4 GB - Ultra160 SCSI
I want the very best performance, with a reasonable cost. If I get a converted (x Pin to 80 pin), then is there any performance loss in there!? And what cables do you recommend?
Sorry for so many questions. All your answers are so appreciated
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There are differnet types of SCSI buss types.. all depends on how much data your trying to throw though the PC. So yes the card does make a difference. Also the major difference with SCSI is it does all the work for the disk and not your processor.
Tbh SCSI is mainly for servers where performance is important vs the cost. Maybe you should post the make / model of your disk ..easier to recommend which to go for then.
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You need 2 adapter cards:
1. SCA 80 pin to SCSI 1/2/3 68/50 pin, e.g.
2. An Ultra 160 SCSI PCI card to go with your Ultra 160 drive, e.g. . The first adapter card in your post above is 10Mb/s and will therefore reduce the transfer rate, whereas the second adapter card is 320 Mb/s and is overkill because your drive would still transfer at 160 Mb/s max.
You also need cables:
1. 80 pin SCSI cable to connect drive to SCA 80 pin adapter. (This may have come with the drive).
2. 50 or 68 pin SCSI cable to connect SCA 80 pin adapter to 50 or 68 pin connector on PCI card.
3. Power cable to connect SCA 80 pin adapter to PCI card.
Also, jumpers to set SCSI ID and termination on the SCA adapter.
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My Drive Model is: