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Hi Guys,
is there a way of hiding your IP address, i.e. making you non-traceable on WAn or LAN network, to hackers, trojans or malicious software.
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cheers
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Simple answer is no. An ip address is something your computer needs in order to function on a tcp/ip based network. Hiding it, or not having one would basically render your computer unusable online, or within you LAN.
You can however, hide your ip from most internet servers and p2p. This is basically done by using an external proxy. Only thing then, is the proxy has a full log of your activities, so make sure it's trusted!
If you have a dynamic ip assigned by your ISP, then you need not worry too much. Most web servers will log ip addresses, but it'll generally be meaningless. If you're really paranoid, just make sure you don't visit any dodgy sites.
How come you ask?
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Didn't we go through all this a few days ago? Somebody wanted to change their IP think.
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im just learning in greater detail how the internet works, IP address keep coming up. I was reading BBc news today and there has been another surge record labels sueing illegal downloaders, so i got thinking how do they know they you have been downloading and how do they knw where you are - IP address! so then i got thinking is there a way of hiding IP address.........
so using a proxy sever means (in laymans terms) that you route all your internet traffic through someone elses server thus there IP address shows? bit isn't the original users IP address linked to the proxy server making it traceable?
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The thing is a lot of P2P doesn't work well with proxy servers, and will give you horribly slow download speeds if you try. If you don't want to risk getting caught for illegally downloading copyrighted material, don't do it.
The proxy server will have a record of your IP address, and since you (usually) don't know who they are you can't really trust them, or they could be forced to release their logs by a court order.
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Is it only me who gets the impression SiMaster is a wannabe skript kiddie?
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Is it only me who gets the impression SiMaster is a wannabe skript kiddie?
what does that mean? can't someone just be genuinely interested without having another motive?
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what does that mean? can't someone just be genuinely interested without having another motive?
According to amos thats a NO.
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SiMaster, they say that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. What's your end goal or are you just being nosey about how the 'net works? If so, I'd recommend spending some time on Google first looking at some of the many useful guides that explain everything you could possible want to know
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Hi Guys,
is there a way of hiding your IP address, i.e. making you non-traceable on WAn or LAN network, to hackers, trojans or malicious software.
open discussion
cheers
Surley that's what the firewall does or can sent to do i'snt it?
I have the option on my personel firewall to hide my IP address to the rest of the world.
Not sure if it helps you.
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Surley that's what the firewall does or can sent to do i'snt it?
I have the option on my personel firewall to hide my IP address to the rest of the world.
I don't know where you got that idea from but it's completely wrong. The router may stop "stuff" from accessing your network but it doesn't hide your external IP address, which is the one that gets logged.
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If you hide your house, how does the postman know where to deliver the letters
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If you hide your house, how does the postman know where to deliver the letters
Spot on. That was my exact argument in another similar post.
If you are going to fileshare, then you use your own ip and if you get caught then tuff, you were breaking the law. That's what most people will do I assume, and as for being caught.. you have a less than 0.1% chance realistacally.
If you really want to learn about TCP/IP, as someone else suggested look up a CCNA qualification, more importantly the CCNA 1 module. Even the basic IT Essentials course from CISCO cover TCP/IP Addressing.
As for hiding, all your doing is going through another server.. so your not hiding, your just taking an indirect router as such... where do you think police get info of filesharers/child porn people from? Either ISP's, or anonymous proxy servers from the web!!!!
Your safer using ur normal ip imo..
Research is research. Fine. But you shouldnt have a need to hide an ip address. Thats just abusing the service and address you've been given/provided for no extra cost generally by the ISP.
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Surley that's what the firewall does or can sent to do i'snt it?
I have the option on my personel firewall to hide my IP address to the rest of the world.
Not sure if it helps you.
I think what this option does is make your ip seem invisible to port scanners and such like
The receiving end needs an address to respond to, and this is encded into each data packet (the unit of transfer)
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I think what this option does is make your ip seem invisible to port scanners and such like
The receiving end needs an address to respond to, and this is encded into each data packet (the unit of transfer)
Most HTTP headers going through a secondary device get altered to include HTTP_FORWARDED_FOR as well as REMOTE_ADDR et al. This can help IP masquerading but maybe it's just giving you the option to strip these out?
All IP segments have to have a destination and source address otherwise the ARP tables on the network layer simply won't function properly and your data won't be delivered correctly. If hacking this can be a good thing, but unless you're only transmitting data and don't want a reply, say a UDP stream, then your destination address needs to be present in the datagram. For TCP this is a must because TCP/IP is in its very design peer to peer managed.
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If you want to learn about tcp/ip and security, try some of these webcasts.
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Lookup CCNA.
Lots of ebooks, this goes into the deep parts of networking.
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Everything you do directly is logged and saved by your ISP, (RIP bill). Use of anonymous proxies, onion routers etc., just make the job a bit harder, but with a court order, any logs that exist will have to be surrended. It's best to stay this side of the law, and don't use file sharing, as the BPI, FAST, Film companies etc.. are becoming increasingly letigious.
As far as protecting your home network goes, a hardware router is the best first line of defence.
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Hi, you find out wether you get a "static Ip address" - (which means you have the same address everytime you log on), or a dynamic address (which means it changes)
simply go to ipchicken.com and write down the number you see
reboot the router/pc and see if this changes.
however either way you will still need good firewall protection, (i have a firewall on my router and my pc) because most spyware/hackers target what is know as "ports"
Each port provides access over a network to certain services such as web (port 80), ftp (port 21), pop3 email (port 110), smtp -ie exchange server email (port 25) and so on.
Now the hackers etc know these standards and they know those ports could be open, so they gain a starting point and send information to try and gain a response, good firewalls tend to receive the information and not respond.
This makes it look to the hacker there is no pc available and any attempts to get something out of that port usually fail (although some hackers are better than others)
This is similar for malware, they use whatever port to send out information, and try to open the port to receive information.
Read more into this if you want, but if security is your aim, your question should change to "how can i best protect my ports"
And as for hiding for the record !!! of america, they will find you!