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Is it illegal to download something I already own? If for example I have bought a CD and it got damaged or I have a track on cassette in the attic, is it ilegal to download it or have I already paid royalties for it?
Is it the process of downloading itself that is illegal or is it the breach of copyright?
Just wondering.
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If you bought a book you wouldn't expect to get free copies just because you have paid for copyright once.
It's illegal to copy material that is copyrighted but there are plenty of legal download sites where you can pay the copyright.
There is information on the thread.
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Is it illegal to download something I already own? If for example I have bought a CD and it got damaged or I have a track on cassette in the attic, is it ilegal to download it or have I already paid royalties for it?
Is it the process of downloading itself that is illegal or is it the breach of copyright?
Just wondering.
The RIAA dosen't even accept that ripping your own CDs is always ok.
I remember reading that terms on some recent CDs meant that you could only keep music if you had the CD. If your CD collection was stolen you would have to dutifully go to your computer and mp3 player and erase all copies you made!
i'll post if I find the link
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dvd recorders ..... the ones under your telly
what are they for?????????????????
it must be to look nice!!!!!!!!!!!
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The RIAA dosen't even accept that ripping your own CDs is always ok.
The UK has no Fair Use anyway. Ripping your own CDs is illegal in this country, there's no issue of fair use to get tangled in.
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The UK has no Fair Use anyway. Ripping your own CDs is illegal in this country, there's no issue of fair use to get tangled in.
Yeah just been reading up. I'm no legal expert, but I believe you're right. The chances of getting in trouble for such a thing are minimal as it's so common. People have been making tapes (for the car), converting cd's to mp3 for their iPod etc... for a long time.
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New it was also on Boing Boing:
Read that crazy stuff!
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Is it the process of downloading itself that is illegal or is it the breach of copyright?
Most of the proccesses of downloading material involves uploading it too (that's how file sharing works). It's the uploading it to other people who don't own copyright to it that gets you into trouble.
If you bought a book you wouldn't expect to get free copies just because you have paid for copyright once.
That's an popular comparison, but a wrong one. There is a physical cost involved in printing and binding the book. There is no cost involved in digital data.
The RIAA dosen't even accept that ripping your own CDs is always ok.
The RIAA is American and has no say in the UK. Also the RIAA is not a law making power. It doesn't matter what they say, they can only lobby governmental powers to make it law.
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Most of the proccesses of downloading material involves uploading it too (that's how file sharing works). It's the uploading it to other people who don't own copyright to it that gets you into trouble.
Downloading without paying any necessary copyright can also "get you into trouble".
That's an popular comparison, but a wrong one. There is a physical cost involved in printing and binding the book. There is no cost involved in digital data...................
No it's not wrong. The issue is the copyright, not the costs involved.
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No it's not wrong. The issue is the copyright, not the costs involved.
I'd say different worlds, like comparing apples and oranges. Not the best comparison as it's comparing digital data, to printed text.
Digital rights are often still quite a grey area. Any fair use rights went out the window when the EUCD was implemented. I'd basically steer clear of the downloading unless it's legal. If you have the cd the best thing is to mp3 the tracks from that. I (correct me if I'm wrong) believe it's still ok to do so as long as you aren't circumventing any copy protection.
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Is it illegal to download something I already own? If for example I have bought a CD and it got damaged or I have a track on cassette in the attic, is it ilegal to download it or have I already paid royalties for it?
Is it the process of downloading itself that is illegal or is it the breach of copyright?
Just wondering.
The problem is where you draw the line. As mr_fishbulb wrote, you would unless you really checked the settings likely be uploading at the same time. That is a no-no.
Also the examples you give are pretty much a no. Thinking about the real world, if your CD is damaged, you'd need to buy a new one - you couldn't just walk into HMV and pick one up. And the file you'd get by downloading is so superior to the one on your dusty tape that would count as something new, too. I believe in the US a service did try and start up which would allow people to download CDs they already owned but came up against a number of legal problems. While I think you could construct a set of facts making this legal, it wouldn't be easy, and I don't think loss of the CDs or wanting to replace tapes comes anywhere close to be honest. And if they ever did come after you (which let's face it is unlikely, but it does happen), the problem you'd face - as discussed in the thread about the guy who got a letter from lawyers - is that unless you can prove there and then that you owned the CDs, you'd lose any court case because civil cases work on a "balance of probabilities" - in other words, you might be telling the truth, but if it's easier to believe that you were file sharing than the lengthy yarn you have spun, you'd lose - this is different from criminal matters where the prosecution must prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
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This site seems to have lots of answers:
The site looks like it's some suilly kids thing, but it was linked to
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Interesting article here.
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Check out the Apple Vs Apple case thats going on just now... Apple computers is being sued by the Beatles record label for using the apple logo when it is downloading music from I-TUNES. This is in breach of a settlement they made a few years ago where Apple computers were not allowed to use the Apple logo for anything to do with music... Apple are now using the defence that music CAN NOT be downloaded its only data. If they win this case then this would put doubt over all music/copyright cases as no music was shared. But if apple win they would have to prove it is immpossble to download music to an ipod its only data and therefore they can use the logo as its not really music.
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i think if companies did not try rip people of with high prices then no one would fill the need to break copyright laws.
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i think if companies did not try rip people of with high prices then no one would fill the need to break copyright laws.
I think there are a lot of people who would download music/movies/software illegally whatever. Some people won't be willing to pay whatever the price.
It's a much more effective form of protest to completly boycott the products and seek out alternatives. Although based on your arguments, I might go steal a ferrari because they're so damn expensive.
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If the MPAA and the RIAA got thier way then you would not be able to copy any content from TV. Any content that you were allowed to copy would have restrictions so you could not skip adverts. You would also have to buy a license of your music CD's for your MP3 player, car stereo and home sound system.
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yeah maybe some still would but i think alot people would buy it if stuff was cheaper and i know if dvd were cheaper i would buy more i just dont see the point in high prices surley the cheaper u can sell somethink the more u will sell the more customers you will get to come back again and again so overall you would get more business and a better profit margin
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If they dont want content copied then they will have to invest in technology to prevent it being copied. Mind you someone will break that in a few minutes, but the Sky Movies online content seems to be well enough protected.