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hi,
i have been having a look around on the internet and have come across a few apple laptops that i like.
i was wondering what the differences of using one of these to using the laptop i have now (compaq presario r3000).
any info would be greatly appreciated as i havent got much knowledge of these things.
thankyou
andy
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i would go for apple every time, used p.c. and apple for many years, depends on what you want it for. apples are far easier to use and dont crash and no viruses!
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i would go for apple every time, used p.c. and apple for many years, depends on what you want it for. apples are far easier to use and dont crash and no viruses!
Mac Virus alerts!!!
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Had a look at the links above, had to dust the cobwebs off the screen when they came up, they were that old in the dates when they were posted.
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Had a look at the links above, had to dust the cobwebs off the screen when they came up, they were that old in the dates when they were posted.
Lets be honest here. £1400 for a laptop that would cost what,say £750 on a PC spec is an awful lot of money left to buy a decent Anti Virus software with!
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I think what has been said so far has been fair discussion over the Mac/PC choices that Andy will have to think about whether its worth shelling out on a new laptop thats not even in the shops yet. I would definetly recommend going to the nearest Apple store when its actually there to look at and try it out.
There are major considerations though with the Intel chip changeover, the main one being that none of the major software companies have yet released their 'Universal versions' of their programs specifically designed to run on the new chip. Universal however does not mean that you can load a windows version onto it and expect it to run, so if you do go for a new Intel Mac its probably worth waiting for the newer versions of the software.
With Apple transitioning the entire Macintosh line over to Intel processors over the next 12 months, users will have to be familiar with Rosetta.
Rosetta is the emulator (translator) that allows current Mac (PowerPC) programs to run under the new Intel processors.
I think what is more of importance overall is what you intend to use a new laptop for, like other people have said £1,400 is alot these days for a laptop thats not even been tried and tested yet
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I brought a powerbook last year while in New York and am totally happy with my purchase. Always been a windows user before and am very, very happy at making the switch. I now only use windows on the work laptop that was issued to me.
If you're comparing macs to pc on specs then yes, macs are more expensive but its the other benefits that makes it worth it and you will really appreciate it the more you use it. I have to admit that one of the reasons I brought the powerbook is that it was and is one of the best looking laptops out there and they are very well built.
Some of the benefits
Peace of mind - I now do not worry about spyware, viruses and other security issues and making sure everything is up to date. I have a firewall on my wireless router and OS X (the operating system). It makes surfing the web a pleasure.
Little or no maintenance - It requires little maintenance, I've had it a year and all I do it run the software update which Apple releases every now and then. All the other time, it is doing what I want it to do.
iLife – this is the free software suite that comes all new Macs. This is worth its weight in gold. It releases the creative side in you. I’m sure you could get the equivalent pc software for each component that makes iLife but it’s the ease of use and interaction between the components that makes it stand out.
It is made up of iTunes, iPhoto, iDvd, iMovies, Garageband and now iWeb (Apple has just released iLife 6). Trust me, even the most uncreative and computer illiterate user can create a fantastic slideshow of their photos, add some music and burn to DVD in next to no time. This is really a fantastic piece of software which is create by Apple for Macs only. Looking at the keynote speech from Macworld, iWeb appears to be a fantastic addition to the iLife suite.
I could go on and on with the pros but there are some cons
I don’t really play games but this is where pcs have the advantage, also has much more software available and more annoyingly for me is that the popular poker and casino sites do not cater for the Mac yet (although I get around this but installing virtual pc and installing windows on the Mac to run pc application – it is slower but perfectly okay for the poker sites).
I'll stop here for now but if you have any specific questions, I'll be happy to answer to the best of my ability.
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Theres a new apple laptop coming out soon with an "intel" cpu which will make it about 3x quicker than the current ones. Hang on checking the website
Its called the Macbook Pro and its available to buy now!!
Here's some text from the webpage
MacBook Pro is the first Mac notebook built upon the revolutionary new Intel Core Duo. It’s actually two processors built into a single chip — which makes this by far the biggest leap in mobile Mac power you’ve ever seen.
They quote a 4x speed increase over previous laptops.
Basic model is 1429quid inc. VAT
Nice looking but expensive.
Apple laptops are regarded as easier to use though don't have the flexibility of the normal laptop. If you buy a non-apple laptop I would expect more tech headaches unless you're a tech guru and don't mind handling these problems. The PC equiv. of this MacBook Pro would be I suppose one of the more expensive Sony Vaio models.
Anyhow hope this helps
Jules
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thats the exact laptop i have seen andwas considering buying.
so that laptop is a quite good compared to the onei have at the minute? (compaq presario r3000)
thankyou for the replies.
any more info from people who have used both different types of laptop would be appreciated.
thankyou
andy
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As no-one has given you a list of pro's and con's here goes.
They dont actually mention the cost and wait of repairs though.
Also spares for a windows based PC are easier to find and are cheaper.
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I would think you need to look carefully at what you are going to use it for. I have used both on many occasions. I love the mac but I also love to play games and the choice of gaming software for the mac is frankly pants.
If you are a gamer I'd say go for Windows, however if you are video editing/surfing/working i'd go for the mac every time.
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thankyou for that linkits very helpful.
i would be using it to play Football manager on and thats the only game i play.
i would be listening to music and surfing the web other times andjust doin other bits and bobs.
i am thinking i might buy one and keep my current laptop aswell just to see which one is better for me then can lend my girfriend the other one.
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Would you consider a desktop?
Easier to upgrade, you wont need a cooling pad, laptop keyboards can be a pain
as in uncomfortable. And are cheaper that any laptop.
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well i have got a desktop computer at my mum and dads house which i gave them forwhen i come at the weekends.
and have been using my laptop for a while now and dont find it that uncomfortable.
i have already got a cooling pad for my laptop so i am all set up for one.
i have also been looking at the sony viao laptops for when i want to upgrade.
the laptop i have at the minute ainttoo bad its a 2.8ghz 60gb hdd and got 1.2gb RAM
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I would agree with intel on the repair side of things with the apple. The Gadget Show a few months ago dropped an Imac and PC from a 2nd floor balcony and found that the PC was far cheaper and faster to repair (100quid and a few days I think) whereas the Imac was far dearer and took longer (500quid plus a few weeks I think).
I would by a Vaio for yourself and give the compaq to your gf. Both would be compatable then wouldn't they.
Jules
PS Intel usually knows what he's talking about.
PPS I have been told not to bother with the Celeron laptops go for the Pentium Mobile ones (better on the batteries). If you want a place to start looking look at the Acer pentium m laptops at ebuyer.
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I would agree with intel on the repair side of things with the apple. The Gadget Show a few months ago dropped an Imac and PC from a 2nd floor balcony and found that the PC was far cheaper and faster to repair (100quid and a few days I think) whereas the Imac was far dearer and took longer (500quid plus a few weeks I think).
I would by a Vaio for yourself and give the compaq to your gf. Both would be compatable then wouldn't they.
Jules
PS Intel usually knows what he's talking about.
Really appreciated thanks mate...
I also saw that show it did make me laugh when the guy had all the bits
spread out on the table and the thing started up, if only my car was as reliable
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The new MacBook pros are only available to order at the moment, as they are only going to start shipping them in February. I'm an ardent Mac User but as the other posters have clearly said they are more expensive to purchase. I don't know about repairs because the only thing I have had go wrong over the last thirteen years of using Macs is have a hard drive fail which I replaced with a new one and as all my data was was backed up to an external drive it was a painless remedy at the time.
If you are needing a new laptop for extensive Graphics/Video/Photoshop work then I can definetly recommend the Mac platform to use. Mac OSX is an excellent operating system and has features on it now (and has had for quite a while now) that Microsoft Vista may only get round to having next year (or whenever it is finally launched).
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Apple make by far the nicest laptops I've seen. Sony's come close but still not as nice and well put together as a powerbook. They're very sleek, and well designed/thought out. Having said that, they aren't cheap.
Personally I'd spend nearer half that if I were you and get PC laptop. Remember you don't have to use Windows, you could use Linux/BSD.
I would, like other people have mentioned, think about what you'll be using it for. Do you really need it to be portable or will it just sit in the one room? If so I'd consider going for a desktop. You'll get much more power for the same price.
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£1400+ is an awful lot to be spending on a computer for the little that you will be using it for. Have you checked that the game that you want on a mac? I belive those new mac's need something called a rosetta program if you are using old mac programs or a new universal program. You can get pc's that are very small - dell has one that takes up about a quarter of the size of a normal one with crt monitor.
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By design, Mac systems are nearly invulnerable to viruses and spyware.
"There are about 60,000 viruses known for Windows, 40 or so for the Macintosh, about 5 for commercial Unix versions, and perhaps 40 for Linux. Most of the Windows viruses are not important, but many hundreds have caused widespread damage. Two or three of the Macintosh viruses were widespread enough to be of importance. None of the Unix or Linux viruses became widespread - most were confined to the laboratory
